Butterfly Jonyer Hinoki

All-wood

18 Reviews

#1 — October 2021

Great blade.

Control ratings are not accurate and should not be used as a measurement. Instead, choose blades that feel good and allow you to connect with the ball well.

The blade has great attacking capabilities.

I am currently using the blade with Friendship 729 Axis Blue Sponge on the forehand and Yasaka Mark V Soft Sponge on the backhand.

The blade feels very comfortable in my hand.

If the blade feels good in your hand, then go for it.

#2 — December 2019

I had this now paired with DHS H3 FH and BH, and it loops very well. I am very happy with it. I loop Chinese style, with a full stroke. The fact is, it is thin at 5.5 mm for a 5-ply all-wood blade, so it’s great for looping. The 7-ply all-wood has more power but not as great as for looping. This is my observation.

#3 — January 2019

In 1988, I used this blade paired with Mark V rubbers (2.0 black BH and max red FH). With that combo, I would topspin on both flanks anything and everything on either side. The blade was a terror with the 38mm ball. Was a topspin machine. I was also 25 years younger and won a bunch of local competitions.

Fast forward to 2016, and I decided to play table tennis again. The old combination was lacking power for the 40mm ball. Younger players were overpowering me. I decided to upgrade. Bought a new butterfly Innerforce (Liu Shiwen)& newer rubbers. Decent blade but affected my looping topspin game. Then I read an article from a famous Chinese coach about how to keep the older OFF blades but simply change the rubber to newer tensors. I decided to go find the correct combination of newer rubbers for my Jonyer H (original FL with the compact head).

After some research and testing, I found the Mizuno Q3 2.1mm for my FH and Rakza7 2mm for my BH. The blade is still amazing. Paired with the newer rubbers, I am beating players half my age. I think the Tenergy05 would also be terrific on this blade, if only I was 20 years younger. The only downside to Tenergy05 I found was it was very sensitive to incoming spin (serve return). Rakza7 has a distinct advantage in this department. Hence my BH has Rakza7.

All my opponents ask me about what equipment I use, and I show them my Jonyer H and it still works. Its an amazing blade and I still love it. Looping machine, fast and light with amazing control. I move my opponents all around the table, and it can do everything - attack, loop, smash, block, chop and drop shots. And yes, the handle shapes to my hand after all these years. I consider it like a work of art. It can never be replaced.

#4 — January 2019

This is a very famous blade in India, at least as a beginner blade and beginner to intermediate transition blade. Many people used to choose this as their first blade for a custom made racket after playing with a pre-made racket.

I’ve only used the Johnyer-H 2 version of this blade as the earlier version is now no longer available. I’ve used both the flared handle and the anatomical handle and paired it with Sriver and Mark 5 combinations.

Both of these combinations worked really well for me and I was able to learn and develop a good all-round game for a beginner. I preferred the anatomical handle and Mark 5 more.

It has excellent control and can generate good spin and decent speed for a beginner. It’s worth its value to develop an all-round game for a beginner.

It’s probably outdated for advanced players for the modern 40+ plastic game, but it’s still good when you’re new to the game.

#5 — April 2018

Amazing feel. Very good blocks and loops. A bit slow, but lovely blade to become a looper.

#6 — February 2018

This is simply a legend. I started off with this blade about a year ago. Control is very good. The speed lacks a little bit of the punching effect, but with a fast rubber to compensate, it can be a killer. The dwell time is pretty high, and it performs as an amazing looping machine. I am using this blade with Donic Coppa Jo Gold on FH and MARK V on BH.

#7 — October 2017

This blade excels in close-to-table play. It’s an excellent looping blade, and its feedback and flex make it suitable for blocking as well. I highly recommend this blade.

#8 — September 2013

I used the blade, but it feels outdated. With the 38mm ball and speedglue, it could have been a different story. However, it lacks power compared to modern blades. Despite its outdated performance, the design remains impressive, featuring beautiful handles and the iconic “nailed” butterfly.

It’s a shame that Butterfly stopped making blades with such unique aesthetics. Are profits really more important than artistic craftsmanship?

#9 — June 2012

One of the best blades by Butterfly. Light, well balanced with great dwell time, amazing control and spin capability. Gives allround attackers the ability to play every shot, impart huge spin on loops and serves. The compact head and medium hardness makes short game, pushes/chops and flicks easy. Add to that the comfy, non slip natural wood handle.

Perhaps could have done with more power for away from table looping and smashing but then that would take away from the excellent control. The new JH Special may have resolved that. An alltime classic.

#10 — February 2012

Starting to compete after a 20-year layoff, I began using my Joyner H blade. I paired it with Barracuda rubber on the forehand side and Tackiness Drive rubber on the backhand side. This combination provides excellent looping and control. It has ample speed for my current level of play.

#11 — August 2011

My first “International Standard” blade, which I bought about 20 years ago. Sadly, it broke in an accident and I never got to buy the exact same ply.

In the era of 38mm balls, this blade was a terror to the opponent, especially when coupled with Mark V on both sides or Mark V / Sriver combination. My coach had that blade (he was seeded 4 in the national rating), and the blade was a terror.

Once I started playing for the state, I had this bat with the same configuration (Mark V FH and Sriver BH) and I was able to retain championship.

The ply broke in a nasty collision with the table.

I bought another blade with the same set of rubbers about 7 years back and I was really disappointed.

First, the 40 mm ball took away about 13% of speed and about 20% of spin (I am from the era of spin based table tennis), and sadly, Butterfly made the head smaller to make the blade more “compact”. This took away even more of my punch in my shots.

I played with the new bat for a couple of months, retired it, and then sold it off.

I never used it with the Tensor or High Tension rubbers, because was really disappointed that the old Legend was no more.

I do not blame the ply, but it is the 40 mm ball that killed the Legend called Jonyer, in my opinion.

If you have the newer version of Jonyer (the compact version), try pairing it with Donic Coppa Gold and Tenergy 64. One of my friends use it and she has got very good response because of the fast “high tension” rubbers and the soft hinoki feel underneath.

There has never been any issues with the control of the ply. If you know what you are doing, you can’t go wrong with a Jonyer, provided your technique is correct.

This is a good ply for beginners, to start with Sriver and Mark V combination. As they progress, they can change the rubber to suit their needs. The handle is “super comfortable” to touch and actually takes the shape of your grip over years (I saw it in a 20 year old Jonyer which is still very very operational).

Overall, a GREAT “feel” blade, but lacks power when paired with conventional rubbers…

#12 — February 2011

It is the best blade I have ever used. Moreover, it gives more control of the ball and is a perfect blade for loops.

#13 — February 2010

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, I played with this blade, flared handle, and Butterfly Super Sriver rubbers. That was in the good old days when we all played with hard Nittaku 38mm balls that never broke. Sigh… Ok, back to the real world. I had the pleasure of trying this blade combined with Stiga EL rubbers. I can say it almost felt like yesteryear. I liked this combination a lot, but I think it’s too slow for my game today. It’s really a nice piece of wood.

I couldn’t resist trying it out again with a Stiga 38mm, 25-year-old, unused 3-star ball. Wow, what a difference in speed!

Today I recommend this blade for table tennis players out there who need an all-around, quite fast blade made of wood.

#14 — December 2009

This blade is an ideal choice for beginners as it is remarkably lightweight. Its moderate speed allows players to refine their strokes, control, and ball feel. The handle is designed for comfort.

As players develop their skills and experiment with different set-ups, they may find the blade lacking in speed and power.

Lightweight blades may not generate sufficient force for executing aggressive strokes such as flips, smashes, and drives. However, they perform well in looping due to their longer dwell time.

In table tennis, choosing the right equipment is crucial for optimizing performance. For new players seeking to develop their skills, this blade remains a viable recommendation.

My personal set-up with this blade includes Butterfly Tackifire-Special (forehand) with Tackiness (backhand). Currently, I employ Nittaku Hurricane 2 (forehand) and DHS Skyline 3 (backhand).

#15 — September 2009

A long-time favorite for mid-distance loopers, the Butterfly blade offers an average sweet spot and good dwell time for topspin. Despite being classified as OFF, its lighter weight makes it play more like an OFF-. The Anatomic Redwood handle provides exceptional comfort, while the flared version may feel small to some. Overall, this blade delivers a satisfying playing experience.

#16 — March 2009

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#17 — January 2009

The best blade in the world offers exceptional control for short games and sufficient flexibility for mid-distance topspin shots.

It is compatible with a range of rubbers, from soft to hard. I personally use it with Big Slam and Energy Extra rubbers, which results in a lightweight setup that provides ample speed for both table and mid-distance play.

The blade features a soft red wood handle, which allows for easy sanding to achieve the perfect shape.

#18 — Long Time Ago...

Fantastic blade with great control and spiny loops.

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