Butterfly Tenergy 80

I’ve been away from this page for several years, which gave me some time to test and try some rubbers. My absolute favorite that I’ve tried in recent years is still this one. This rubber is an absolute dream for my playstyle. I’m an off player on my forehand and like to counterattack from the backhand. Flicks, spins, smashing, and chops—this rubber does it all with ease.

I had so much more fun playing with this rubber, and it gave me confidence. Those two things are the main thing for me: fun and confidence! There is no rubber that makes you a better player all of a sudden. You need to make an effort in practice. But with fun and confidence, that progress comes so much easier.

There are only two downsides to this rubber. One is the price, and the other is that the backhand flip/flick is sometimes bouncy. I’ve tried Rosena, Rakza 7, and the 80 FX version as well, but they both miss the kick and power that this one gives. They give a little bit more control though and are good rubbers as well. Tenergy 80 is very consistent throughout the months I played with it, and the wear down was okay.

It is quite a good balance between speed, control, and spin. The throw angle is slightly higher than T64, and the spin is questionable for flicks but still holds up alright.

Although the rubber is not tacky at all, the top sheet is very trippy (especially when brand new). Everyone needs time to get used to it unless they have used it before, in which case they can play with it in its prime shining time.

Not really worth the price as I play on an off+ blade, but that depends on your playstyle and blade choice.

This rubber is well-balanced, offering a good combination of speed, spin, and control. It is not exceptional in any particular area, which may be viewed as both a strength and a limitation.

Additionally, it is somewhat fragile. However, for players who are confident in handling it with care, this rubber can be an excellent choice. It provides a comprehensive range of capabilities without excelling in any specific aspect.

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Blade: Butterfly Viscaria
FH : Hurricane 3 Neo 41 degree 2.2mm
BH: Tenergy 80 2.1mm

I’ve been using the Tenergy 80 for a few months now, transitioning from the Tenergy 05. Tenergy 80 is faster than the 05, noticeably close to the table and at mid-distance. The ball shoots off the blade quicker, and the trajectory is more linear. The spin is a little less than the 05, especially noticeable for slower loops close to the table. Away from the table, the difference is less noticeable.

This rubber is excellent on the backhand, especially for backhand flicks and topspins. Because of the straighter trajectory, over the table, the BH shots have an almost punching-like effect that makes it difficult to be returned. When the rubber is fully engaged, it gives a responsive clicky sound.

One contention I had with the Tenergy 05 was that lifting backspin was difficult, especially close to the net because of the high throw angle, which meant you had to keep the angle closed. The result is a small margin for error where you have to both lift the backspin by brushing up and keep the angle closed. With the Tenergy 80, it is easier to lift backspin, in my opinion, with the lower throw angle, and it feels less responsive to spin in general.

The transition from 05 to 80 felt very natural. It’s like the 05 but easier to use, less sensitive to spin, with a little more speed and a little less spin on slow brushing strokes. It doesn’t have the signature catapult effect of the 05, so the sudden-ness is lost. Instead, it has a more balanced speed throughout.

Overall, I am very satisfied with Tenergy 80 for the BH. My only contention is that I wish it had a tad more spin. I might try the Dignics 05 in the future, but currently, I am very satisfied!
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Cheers!

Speed: MX-P > Tenergy 80 > Tenergy 05 > H3 Provincial > H3 Neo = H8 Hard

Spin: H8 Hard > H3 Provincial > H3 Neo > Tenergy 05 > Tenergy 80 > MX-P.

The rubber has good speed, spin and control. It is an overall top pick.

I have been using this rubber on my Donic Waldner Legend Carbon, on FH, for some time now, replacing a Donic Bluestorm Z2. I was searching for a softer rubber, one that would allow me to feel the ball more. I believe the Bluestorm is a good rubber, but it was too hard for my blade.

Well, now I am incredibly satisfied. I feel like I am touching the ball, I feel more spin in my strokes, the speed is super good for me, and the control is incredible. I feel more sure of myself, and I feel like I can attack with more consistency, both close to the table and at a mid distance. I think the combination with my blade works really well.

The Tenergry series is one of the most popular rubbers in table tennis today. The Best tenergy out of all is the 05, which is known for its excellent all-around performance. It offers a great balance of speed, spin, and control, making it a good option for a wide range of players.

The 05 is very similar to the tenergy 64, but it offers a bit more control and spin, while sacrificing a bit of speed. This makes it a great option for players who are looking for a rubber that provides excellent control and spin without sacrificing too much speed.

Great rubber. It’s not perfect in one thing but good in everything. Good in Topspin and blocking/smashing. It does not create the same amount of spin as the T05 but it’s very spinny. On the other hand, it’s much easier to handle incoming spin, blocking, or smashing. The control is really great for an Off rubber.

Like its official description says, T80 has the perfect balance among the Tenergys in terms of speed and spin. The touch is also excellent, with good precision and a good throw angle. It’s an excellent rubber that I’m currently using on the forehand in a Primorac Carbon Cpen. It fits well with it.

I have only had this rubber for 6 weeks, so I don’t know much yet and I don’t like to say much without thorough testing. I will say at this point I really, really like this rubber.

My favorite rubber to date has been the tenergy 05, but this rubber rivals it. It is actually a lot like 05 to me, yet I notice a substantially lower arc and seems to have noticeably less spin and response to incoming spin.

Other than that, it is probably faster with a little more dwell time than the 05. It is really fast when you hit the ball hard and clean!!

Tenergy 80 is a well-rounded offensive rubber with good spin and speed. I tried this on my backhand and found that the rubber is very good for short flicks and drives and is also good for blocking. Despite its fairly low sensitivity to incoming spin, it itself is able to generate a great deal of spin on pushes and especially serves. It plays best at mid-distance and away from the table whether blocking or counter looping.

Pushing close to the table will require an adjustment due to the Spring Sponge’s propensity to pop the ball up (though a lot of backspin is generated). The main limitation I found with this rubber is that power loops on the backhand side are difficult to execute close to the table due to the springiness of the sponge but work great away from the table. I also had a few hits with it on the forehand side as well and found that it also works well there, with 3rd balls being a bit easier to execute compared to backhand. I briefly tried T80 with a 7-ply Carbon blade but found that it played much better on a 5-ply OFF wood blade as I found it to be too bouncy on the Carbon blade, though this could also be to do with my level.

Overall, it is a very solid rubber and a good introduction to the Tenergy series. T80 is great for attacking short balls but when those fail, your rallies and game winners will come from mid/away from the table. I would recommend this to intermediate to advanced players who aren’t particularly fussy but want a stable rubber that gives them that extra kick. T80 is in many ways better than its FX counterpart as it offers far greater spin, speed, and more gears at the cost of slightly worse blocking, pushing, and control.

Notes:
A cut sheet (normal sized Stiga head) weighs 46g, which is a bit heavier than the FX at 43g and classic Sriver at 42g. I’d put the hardness of T80 between the two being harder than FX but a bit softer than Sriver.
I played with this on a 5-ply OFF blade - Stiga Eternity VPS.
My playstyle is backhand dominated two-winged shakehand looper.

This rubber provides a balance between spin and speed. I’m currently using it on my backhand with a Tibhar ALC blade. It offers less speed but more control compared to T64.

Played with the same two 80’s 2.1 on Viscaria for the last 18 months (cannot afford consistent replacement) and still holding my own against top seniors and vets, so can vouch for durability. Only changed because I was interested to see the difference between the 05, and bar the ridiculous ease of service return with the 80 and slight reduction in spin, I didn’t see a huge difference. I feel the 80 has slightly more control, however. Nonetheless, I do miss the instant third ball and service spin achievable with the 05.

I really like this rubber. I found it perfectly suited to my game. I put it on my backhand, and the control surpassed my expectations. However, it’s also a great looping rubber. Of all the Tenergy and other rubbers I’ve tried, this one is the one I’m most fond of for my backhand. I highly recommend it.

Very solid backhand rubber. I switched from a cheapish Chinese rubber (729 cream transcend) because I felt my technique was better. I’m glad I made the change! It took very minor adjustments, but now that I am used to it, this rubber is excellent in almost all aspects: touch play, backhand topspin, block, service, etc. Chopping is kind of difficult because of the high bounce and throw angle, but some minor adjustments should fix that. I highly recommend this rubber!

It is an excellent offensive rubber. However, I am not sure if it is worth USD$75. Even with a 20% discount, which would bring the price down to $60, there are many other good alternatives available, such as Bluefire MI, Rakza X, and Andro Razant.

It is good for my Gergely FL. It is best for backhand spin and control.

This rubber offers an impressive balance of spin and speed, making it a versatile choice for all types of players. Its high controllability allows for precise shots and effortless handling.

Recommended by me for versatile play, this rubber excels in all aspects of the game, from chopping to attacking. Its compatibility with the Butterfly Grubba Pro FL Blade enhances its performance, making it a highly reliable and effective option.

Fast Rubber with a Unique Bounce

The rubber boasts impressive speed, but it comes with an unusual bounce. This quality makes it ideal for fast-paced play, but less suitable for slower hits.

Impressive Spin Capabilities

Despite its fast nature, the rubber provides excellent spin capabilities, although it falls short of the exceptional spin produced by Nitaku Fastarc G1 N and Adidas P7.

Control for Aggressive Play

Control is a notable strength of the rubber for fast play scenarios. However, the unique bounce characteristic can hinder control during slower shots.

Tried it on a Stiga Allround Wood blade. As an amateur player, I hated this rubber. Its non-linear behavior caused hard hits to fly high over the table, missing it entirely. The spin was poor, making it a nightmare to play with, even for the short hour I tried.

The most terrible aspect of this rubber is its close-to-zero grip. The ball simply slips on the surface. It seems like this rubber is only suitable for professional players, who may appreciate its hidden great values.

This rubber is suitable for certain players and blades, but it may be too fast for stiffer and harder blades such as the Stiga Carbo 7.6. Inconsistency can be an issue at times.

The rubber performs well for blocking and is decent for the short game. However, it excels at mid-distance looping. Open-ups close to the table are more challenging with this rubber as it struggles to lift heavy chops.

Tenergy 80 may not be as spin-sensitive as expected, making it a potential option for chopping. Nevertheless, it is recommended to consider T64 or T05 instead. The inconsistency of Tenergy 80 can be frustrating for some players.

The best rubber so far, but the price is quite high in the Malaysian market.

It’s a good rubber!

Certainly the best rubbers for most of the attackers. With T80 and BTY Zhang Jike, the feeling is just amazing. I can feel the blade in every hit, that’s just amazing.

Combines the qualities of T05 and T64, can be played close to the table as well as mid-range.

I commend this rubber on Arylat-carbon blades.

Edit: I tested this rubber on Innerforce AL, the rubber feels absolutely dead, no speed at all. This rubber doesn’t show its speed with a flexible blade. It becomes a slow rubber and unpredictable on my FH topspins. I stuck with IF AL, I kept T80 on BH, good control, and rather slow, but on FH, I switch to faster and more powerful: Calibra Tour M (which I didn’t like at all on Zhang Jike blade because the combination was ultra low throw and ultra-short dwell time, but Tour M is awesome with IF AL which is a high throw and flexible offensive blade).

I was initially unimpressed with this rubber. It lacks a clear purpose, being heavy, less spinny than T05, slower than T64, and offering less control than T05FX. For a versatile rubber, I prefer Sriver, which is more affordable. There must be better performing rubbers available at a lower cost than T80. I can understand the value in purchasing the other Tenergy rubbers I mentioned since they are specialized. However, I fail to see the appeal of this one.

Update: I have reconsidered my opinion and given this rubber a second chance. After further play, I recognize its consistency in various aspects (looping, blocking, smashing, opening, touch, etc.). While it may not surpass T05 in spin or T64 in speed, nor does it excel in any particular area to justify its price, it functions as a reliable backhand rubber.

Powerful Rubber

This rubber is the perfect choice for all-around players. It features a unique “inside secret” effect that you’ll discover upon purchase. Test it against others, and you’ll witness its miraculous qualities firsthand.**ZUPER!

I found that this rubber is absolutely perfect. However, I had to replace them after only 3 months of using them. Durability is very poor.

In my opinion, this rubber is one of the best rubbers for the forehand. It has good speed and spin, and a perfect balance between both.

T80 is similar to T05 but has better control. Open looping is easier with this rubber. The ball trajectory is long, which is good.

I have set up this rubber for forehand and T64 for backhand.

Excellent speed and spin. It is probably the best attacking rubber in the market. However, the price is high. Frequent gluing is required to keep up the original speed and spin.

En realidad es una excelente goma. Muchos usuarios dicen que no es muy rápida, lo cual es cierto si se compara con otras gomas como la Tenergy 64. Sin embargo, como todas las tenergies, es una goma rápida, especialmente si tienes un mango off+.

La he estado usando durante dos meses en una madera Zhang Jike de ALC. Los loop llevan mucho efecto y se pueden colocar bien. Los topspin son súper rápidos y con buen efecto. En mi opinión, me gustó más esta que la T64 para el Forehand.

Para bloquear, al igual que la Tenergy 64, es una maravilla, solo que con esta puedes ubicar la bola donde quieras con más exactitud. Es excelente para los servicios, ya que produce mucho efecto sin mucho esfuerzo.

Es una maravilla para contraatacar a corta, mediana y larga distancia. En verdad, es una excelente goma y la recomiendo. Lamentablemente, los precios de Butterfly están por encima de otras marcas, de lo contrario, muchos estaríamos comprando esta excelente goma. Si puedes, cómprala, no te arrepentirás. He probado varias gomas y esta se ha convertido en mi favorita: la T80 para el FH y la T64 para el Backhand.

This rubber is incredibly fast and produces an extraordinary amount of spin. In my opinion, it surpasses all other Tenergry rubbers.

It is not impacted in the slightest by incoming spin, which makes it phenomenal for short game and close to the table drives. The lack of spin sensitivity also makes chops close to the table extremely easy (short push chops), and distance chops don’t sail too much if you use the proper technique.

Update 2: After a few weeks, playing an hour or two almost every day, the rubber still plays just as fast. After breaking in the rubber, it just got spinnier… at first it required a specific stroke to generate heavy spin; now it’s effortless.

Not my favorite rubber, but probably the best one on the market.

You can generate huge spin with this rubber, and the speed is adequate. However, similar to other Tenergies, it can be challenging to execute a penetrating opening loop. Nonetheless, the spin capabilities are exceptional.

In my opinion, this rubber is a suitable option for players who do not seek extremely fast equipment but prioritize high spin characteristics.

Muy buen jebe, es muy rápido pero tiene el suficiente control para lograr realizar bien los topspins, loop y para backhand es muy bueno también, salen los tiros rápidos y precisos.

En cuanto al costo, si es muy caro y digamos que sí vale la pena, a pesar de que hay otras marcas que han sacado buenos jebs por menos precio.

Blade: Timo Boll ALC

Serves: Control for short serves. Good spin for service due to plentiful dwell time.

Pushes/Backspin: Excellent control and spin due to high dwell time. More spin with more brushing. Good control for landing the ball short.

Blocking: Excellent for blocking, quite forgiving. Easy passive and active blocking due to medium-low throw.

Looping: Wonderful mid-distance topspin looping. Spinny and adequate speed. Great looping rubber.

Hardness: Medium hardness. Doesn’t bottom out.

Durability: Approximately 80-100 hours. Expensive for regular use.

Suitable for Backhand: Good blocking, great spin, non-tacky surface.

This is a great rubber that provides excellent spin on serves, chops, and loops.
The throw angle is one of its most impressive features.
The only issue with this rubber is its durability, as you may need to change it more frequently than other types of rubber.

I had it in 1.9 and 2.1 on Timo Boll ALC blade. It’s good in 1.9 for a decent player, but in 2.1, it’s a killer. Great dwell time. FH topspin is just pure power and spin with a tremendous catapult effect when it hits the table. On the amateur level that I play, most guys at the other side of the table could not deal with incoming balls; just too fast for them.

I guess with rubbers like this, you need to break into them. I would say after 20-25 training sessions, you will start getting your real opinion about the rubber. Taking it for one training, as I did, may just be a fascination and excitement taking place instead of an honest judgment on this rubber.

It’s expensive, so I moved on. You can find two decent rubbers if you look well for the price of one Tenergy. You will still find your game with Donic or Stiga or Tibhar, and your budget won’t have to suffer every two months.

Update 30/1

Got this 2 weeks ago, imported from Japan. Have used it 3-4 times now. Using 2.1 on FH of Stratus Powerwood, cut weight 47 grams. So far, really liking it. I’m able to counter loop much more consistently and land shots that other rubbers wouldn’t allow. The feel and spin are better than any other rubber I have used up to now. The short game is very good, as well as serving. It generates huge spin on loops.

I do not have the disadvantage of comparing it with other Tenergies, although I have used my teammates’ bat with T05. While it’s good, it never impressed me enough to try it myself. I don’t know yet how long it will last, but the performance is on another level to all other rubbers I have used, including Omega IV Pro, Vega, Rakza, etc.

Update Sept 2013

I went back to Omega IV Pro as I found the T80 a little too bouncy and not as good for smashing. It’s still a good rubber, but I’m too used to Xiom.

A good rubber, but for FH Tenergy 05 is better and for BH Tenergy 64 is better. It’s a mix between T05 and T64 but it doesn’t exceed these two rubbers’ best points.

It’s still an interesting rubber.

Excellent rubber. As others have said, it lies somewhere between 05 and 64 in general behavior. I find it suits my FH side more than 05 due to a more easy-going throw angle. The massive spin potential remains, but it is easier to keep the ball arc tighter when needed. It plays well on the BH side too, but I prefer softer sponges, so I’ll stick with T64-FX until the inevitable T80-FX appears.

Also, of all the Tenergy range, I find T80 to be less bouncy and reactive to spin in the short game. It is much easier for me to use for service receive and touch shots. I’m not sure why this is the case, to be honest, but I’m happy about it.

It is still pricy in the EU unless you can find a friendly importer.

I find T-80 a very easy rubber to play with. It has adequate speed and spin, but nothing special. Like someone said, T-05 has the spin to finish a point, while T-64 has the speed to finish a point. T-80 is hard to finish a point with. It’s a good rubber, but that’s all.

Like all say, between 05 and 64, I can feel the boost of speed compared to 05 but less spin, only slightly by the way, and just a little less speed than 64 but more spin.

Using it on my BTY TBZLF on the forehand, coming from Bluefire M1, I can say that this one behaves more like I like. I have a lot more control in the short game, but I can see less spin on my serves. Also, I need to change my technique a little because this rubber is a Tenergry and not a tensor like all people tend to think. Looping backspin is easy, but flicks are a little more difficult compared to M1 or 05.

I really like that this rubber is all-around suited.

Lastly, I recommend this rubber for the forehand or backhand depending on your needs. I can change it with 64 in mid-distance loop and it behaves the same or use it in a loop near and is like 05. Best of both worlds. I think I found my combination now. I just need to work on my movement now.

Sorry guys but I hated this rubber on my Nittaku Violin. To me, it would appear that it’s a lot of hype due to the Butterfly name. I tried a sheet of 2.1 in black. I’ve been looking for a backhand rubber that has the same level of spin as Geospin Tacky but doesn’t bottom out quite as much away from the table. I use Xiom Vega Elite max on the forehand in red.

I found the Tenergy far too bouncy with too high a throw angle for me on either b/h or f/h. Also, the spin available wasn’t any better than the Xiom rubber, which is half the price, just as fast and has more control and a lot less than the Geospin. I found looping ok but had to change the angle of my attack considerably and never felt comfortable with it. Serving and blocking was on a par with the Xiom.

It might be that it just didn’t suit my blade and my style, so I will try it on a couple of others I have including my old Butterfly Surbek Hinoki from 1976! I’m not saying its a bad rubber, all I’m saying is that for the price I think two sheets of vega elite are better value and for less than the price of the Tenergy a sheet of Geospin and a sheet of Vega!

I also found the rubber to be heavy and a little brittle when cutting it, but that’s not an issue when it’s glued down. And getting rubber off the paddle these days is easy unlike trying to remove the 1976 Sriver off the Surbek! If you love Tenergy anyway give it a go but if you’ve never tried it Xiom is a better buy IMHO.

Update: ok, I’ve just tried a sheet of 1.7mm black T80 on my Violin. What a revelation! All the hype is true! This is amazing stuff! Great spin, speed, control! Just amazing! Just goes to show, getting the right rubber / thickness for the blade and your style. It gave me the confidence to attack everything with monster forehands! I just can’t wait to use it again!.

I absolutely could not be happier with this rubber. For a frame of reference, I have recently used Donic Coppa Gold as well as Donic Bluefire M1 and M2.

My first impression (2.1 on both sides of a Timo Boll ZLF) was that my backhand was amazing. Blocking and looping off the backhand side is effortless compared to most rubbers. I had the tendency to miss in the net with Bluefire, so the higher throw angle is perfect. Additionally, my loops have significantly more spin on them. It hits a higher, spinnier trajectory than Donic and puts more spin on the ball.

The short game is great, and the serve is very spinny, although not a great deal more so than what Bluefire could produce. Overall, it is perfect for a very versatile game and can do everything I ask it to. 10/10

Update!!!
I found the life of this rubber to be 3 or 4 months of solid playing. Even then, it’s perfectly usable, just noticeably worse. Over time, I became frustrated with difficulty in keeping serves low and have switched to Xiom for FH, but I still love this rubber as a backhand.

Great Rubber is the best rubber I ever used. It’s very easy to play with, providing great control and very heavy spin. The speed is good and the short game is awesome. Overall, I would rate it 10/10.

This rubber is best suited for serious players who either currently have or are looking to develop proper forehand and backhand technique. It’s a high-end rubber designed for world-class play. The quality and performance justify the high price tag. Once upon a time, it was glued Sriver, today it’s Tenergy. This is the best rubber on the market, hands down.

It’s a pretty nice rubber that suits my backhand. It’s very nice on short games where I can receive service on my backhand pretty easy, since it’s not so bouncy on short games. Backhand flicks are easy, and chops are surprisingly easy. So as many say, it is good as an all-around rubber.

What I don’t agree with people is that they say it is softer than Tenergy 05. When looping or doing any kind of hits, it feels harder than Tenergy 05, but it feels softer when you pinch it. So I guess it feels harder than it is. Service is nice with lots of spin.

But blocking is a little different from what I’m used to (using Xiom Sigma Euro). I used a robot that shoots topspin, and when I blocked the ball with my backhand, the ball just went straight up to the roof. So I had to adjust a little but not much, but after a few hits, I got used to blocking with it. All in all, it’s a great backhand rubber in my opinion.

This is the best overall rubber. However, it is not as simple as that. It is more a power, spin, and control rubber made into high gears. After this rubber, you need no more rubbers. This is in fact the end of rubbers. Period.

I have been using this rubber for 2 months now. I find that it has significantly improved the spin and speed of my serves. Additionally, it provides excellent control and blocking capabilities. One of the most notable advantages of this rubber is its ease of use when executing topspins and drives. Overall, I am very impressed with its performance and highly recommend it for forehand use.

Perfect speed.
Huge spin and control.
Incredible at blocking.
Killing loops.
Very powerful when hit hard (a little less control in this department but OK).

Very very controllable and spinny in short game and opening loops.
You can feel how it grabs the ball in every stroke.
The perfect hardness and dwell time. A little bit too hard when new but it becomes softer after a few days of use.

Don’t know about durability nor consistency.
Very expensive but love it.
Best FH rubber i’ve tried and probably BH too but i’m going to keep Bluefire M3 in the BH by the moment wich was my previous FH rubber (M3 is awesome for FH but i think it’s even better for BH if you like high throw angled rubbers in the BH).

Blade: Andro Temper Tech OFF.

Quality rubber. Took a bit of getting used to (felt a bit springy at first), but glad I stuck with it. The spin on the opening loop is monstrous, and you can pick up easy points with that alone. It also blocks and flat hits surprisingly well.

That said, overall, T80 is not quite as good as Rakza 7 in my view, which is just a tad faster with the same level of control and spin. Still a great rubber, and I’m happy I bought it. T80 has not disappointed.

This rubber performs well on my Galaxy J-1 blade. It offers excellent control – I’m certain of it! I believe that there’s no other rubber that can provide both high spin and speed while maintaining such good control.

It has a medium-high throw angle, but with practice, you’ll learn how to keep the ball low. Looping is effortless, although blocking may take some time to master. Once you get the hang of it, you can block effectively with low returns, forcing your opponents to make mistakes.

Service is a breeze for players who use this rubber. It imparts spin on the ball that you never thought possible with other rubbers. Butterfly has proven its standard with this exceptional rubber, albeit a bit pricey. I purchased it for $95 in Singapore.

An excellent rubber in many areas, but certainly not worth the price.

It sits somewhere between the T64 and the T05. It combines the strong points of the 05 (short game, opening loops, slow spinny loops) with those of the 64 (looping away from the table, blocking, driving).

It also removes the weaknesses of both. The 05 is not very fast at a distance from the table and is very sensitive to the opponent’s spin. The 64 is bouncy and hard to control for short games.